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		<title>Going offworld</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading the story this week that NASA and Google are working on a way to extend the Internet beyond the confines of our planet was intriguing.  Of course I love hearing about anything that has to do with space exploration, and the concept of extending the Internet into space is interesting and strange at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the story this week that NASA and Google are working on a way to extend the Internet beyond the confines of our planet was intriguing.  Of course I love hearing about anything that has to do with space exploration, and the concept of extending the Internet into space is interesting and strange at the same time.  Of course, if that first manned mission to Mars ever does happen, the journey is no doubt going to be a long one (several months at least), being able to browse the Internet would be nice <img src='http://blog.marsworks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Now&#8230;according to the <a href="http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=88fee3a9-d177-4fa1-87f5-6d8fbce7f42e" target="_blank">article in the Ottawa Citizen</a> about this, it will take nearly three minutes for the signal to travel from the earth to the source.  I guess instant messaging and real time communication are somehow out of the question.</p>
<p>What was interesting, is that the key technological hurdle needing to be overcome is the ability for a signal to be smart and be able to deal with disruptions and connection problems.  The new concept is called &#8220;Disruption-Tolerant Networking, or DTN.  If a signal is blocked, the server can sense this, can save the content and send it on when the way is clear.&#8221;   We are constantly building web applications that rely on communication with other systems, sometimes asynchronously.  While there are mechanisms that can deal with disruption to a certain extent, this concept is interesting in that one could be sure that a transmission would arrive eventually, even if the system accepting the message isn&#8217;t available immediately.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to see if this is one of those space program advances that actually helps us on earth, or if its just a cool idea that doesn&#8217;t yield any practical application.</p>
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		<title>IE8 and Version Targeting: Who Really Loses?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This might be a bit heavy for only being the second post on our newly created blog but since everyone else and their lemur have already weighed in on the subject, I thought I&#8217;d step up as well.
First, some background for anyone that isn&#8217;t aware. Microsoft announced how IE8 would attempt to avoid the problems [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be a bit heavy for only being the second post on our newly created blog but since <a title="A great compilation of reactions from the Web Standards community" href="http://www.digital-web.com/news/2008/01/IE8_Version_Targeting_causes_quite_a_stir">everyone</a> <a title="Another excellent list of reactions from across the web" href="http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2008/01/24/1e8/">else</a> <a title="The “X-UA-Compatible” controversy as portrayed by toy lemurs" href="http://www.katemonkey.co.uk/article/48/x-ua-lemur-compatible">and their lemur</a> have already weighed in on the subject, I thought I&#8217;d step up as well.</p>
<p>First, some background for anyone that isn&#8217;t aware. <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/01/21/compatibility-and-ie8.aspx">Microsoft announced how IE8 would attempt to avoid the problems caused by the launch of IE7</a> which coincided with the publication of two articles on A List Apart: <a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype">Aaron Gustafson&#8217;s explanation of the idea</a> and <a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fromswitchestotargets">Eric Meyer&#8217;s discussion of his personal reaction</a>. Subsequently, some people&#8217;s heads exploded. I strongly suggest you read the articles (and their ensuing comments) to get appraised of the situation before continuing on here.</p>
<p>There seems to be <em>a lot</em> of backlash to the idea and yet I don&#8217;t find myself that upset or opposed. I can&#8217;t really figure out who it is that is so negatively affected. In order to make sure I wasn&#8217;t just missing something, I started to look at the stakeholders in this decision and how they would be impacted.</p>
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<h3>Users</h3>
<p>The whole purpose of this work by Microsoft is to ensure that average web users are the least affected by future versions of their browser. If everyone involved in creating and presenting web sites continue to do their job properly, this group will remain blissfully unaware of any changes taking place behind the scenes. Web sites that work for them will keep on working. <strong>Impact: none. </strong></p>
<h3>Companies with Web Sites (e.g. MARSWorks clients)</h3>
<p>When a company has a site designed and developed for them, they expect that a certain experience be conveyed to the user. They want their target audience to be treated to their message the way they intended it. It falls (as it always has) to those of us building the sites to make this happen. <strong>Impact: none.</strong></p>
<h3>Web Developers &#8211; Amateur</h3>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking here of people content to create sites by letting rudimentary WYSIWYG tools do the heavy lifting. I&#8217;d also include those who are oblivious to (or even against) the web standards movement. Nothing about this IE8 announcement changes anything for them that wasn&#8217;t already changed by IE7. Quirks mode will still be Quirks mode and table layouts will (unfortunately) still continue to work.  <strong>Impact: none.<br />
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<h3>Web Developers &#8211; Intermediate</h3>
<p>This level of developer probably uses a proper DOCTYPE and is in some stage of transitioning to being more web standards-aware. They may never know about the <code>X-UA-Compatible</code> declaration and so they will be safe in that IEx will always just fall back to IE7 for their sites. <strong>Impact:  none.</strong></p>
<h3>Web Developers &#8211; Advanced</h3>
<p>This is the category in which I place myself and basically anyone else who&#8217;s actually following this issue. Where I diverge from what seems to be the prevailing opinion is that I don&#8217;t think this will change my job much at all. It won&#8217;t involve making any changes to sites already in existence because I know they work in IE7 and that&#8217;s how they&#8217;ll be rendered forevermore by virtue of not using the new <code>X-UA-Compatible</code> declaration. As IE8 becomes more of a reality, I&#8217;ll start including the new <code>&lt;meta&gt;</code> tag however I need to in order to have my site look correct. This is nothing new. We&#8217;ve all been using hacks, fixes, and conditional comments to do the same thing for what feels like ages. Sure, I&#8217;d love it if I never had to work around a browser&#8217;s inadequacies again but that&#8217;s not realistic. Putting another tool in my kit really doesn&#8217;t sound like much of a price to pay.<strong> Impact: minimal.</strong></p>
<h3>Microsoft</h3>
<p>Internet Explorer is actually handcuffed by two things that should be major selling points: their history and their massive install base. IE7 &#8220;broke the web&#8221; because it behaved like a standards based browser instead of IE6, which a lot of people didn&#8217;t understand. Now they have to try to be everything to everyone: IE5.5/Quirks mode for legacy support; IE7 for decently/recently developed sites; IE8/IE9/IEedge&#8230; for the future. I actually think that their solution is a pretty good one considering the situation they find themselves in. Whether or not this is a viable position going forward remains to be seen&#8230;  <strong>Impact: significant, especially for the future.</strong></p>
<h3>Other Browser Vendors</h3>
<p>If I were a Mozilla or an Opera, I wouldn&#8217;t worry about this in the slightest. In fact, this might prove to be a major win for the other browsers in the long run. I&#8217;ve been reading that people think that this spells the end of progressive enhancement. It seems to me that what it actually does is move progressive enhancement squarely into the field of non-IE browsers. Savvy web developers and savvy browser makers will continue to push each other to use the latest tools and technologies available. I&#8217;ll keep including progressive enhancement in the sites I build and the browsers (and users) that stay current will benefit. Just like before. Users may eventually start to realize that sites look <em>better </em>in Firefox than IE and switch&#8230; <strong>Impact: none (possibly positive?).</strong></p>
<p>So, after all this, what am I saying? Effectively, Microsoft is being forced to lie in the bed they made. To their credit, though, I think they&#8217;re handling the issue in a way that&#8217;s perfectly acceptable and makes the best of what they have to deal with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that much more will be said on this topic before it&#8217;s all over and I may even change my mind but for now I&#8217;m willing to take the fact that the community is having this dialog as a win.</p>
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<h3>Addendum</h3>
<p>I read <a href="http://morethanseven.net/posts/who-loses-out-to-x-ua-compatible/">Who loses out to X-UA-Compatible?</a> over at <a href="http://morethanseven.net/">Morethanseven</a> while this post was in draft and was surprised by the similarity to this article. This was by no means an act of plagiarism, just two minds thinking alike.</p>
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